My friend died

[Iwantsweetdreams]

She died during child birth, and only only i could see and touch her even though she didn't look like herself and eventually she faded and came back and her spirit eventually faded for good.

[ArianaMystic]

Is your friend actually pregnant?? It might be a warning of what actually might happen though that is a very rare case.

My interpretation:
Your friend may be facing a major changes in her life equal to a child birth, maybe a new job, a new project, a new relationship... which will result in either ending of your friendship or transformation of your friendship to a different level.

If it ends then she may be in your life though barely there like an accquaintance, not a close friend anyway till she finally disappears. If it has transformed, the previous kind of friendship may spring up once or twice and then end.

what do you mean -'faded for good'??

[Iwantsweetdreams]

Yes faded for good, didn't see her again and i was sad that i couldn't help.

[foreverJung]

hopefully not the case, but I think your dream refelcts your awareness that whatever has happened to your friend recently has killed her spirit, she is not herself anymore, her will is gone.


Best wishes. Very sorry.

[Iwantsweetdreams]

Thank you very much for your feedback. i hope things can get better.

[ArianaMystic]

@foreverJung- Interesting, I didn't think of that.

[foreverJung]

Thank you very much for your feedback. i hope things can get better.

of course they can!!! Explaining it is a bit complicated as it may not make sense, but... things like love, joy, vivaciousness, will are never truly dead, because they are dependent on a state of mind. Getting one's state of mind to shift may be a trick, but we never loose the potential or power to change our mind. Nothing of the mind is ever set in stone

[foreverJung]

@foreverJung- Interesting, I didn't think of that.

yes you did - you just saw the ending of the relationship in terms of their relationship instead of because one of them wasn't "there" anymore. Actually, I left out the part of the birth being related to a project or pursuit because you'd already covered that base. Your interpretation totally dovetails with mine. The way you describe the fluctuation of friendship and the friendship ending I suspect is true - not in the sense that they won't be friends anymore in a concrete sense, but in a symbolic sense, the "person" that she was at first friends with has changed - the friendship with that person may have "ended" just the way you describe because that person has been transformed by their experience (she's not there anymore), but the two of them are not doubt still friends in a concrete sense (and it sounds like the person needs friends). I think perhaps we just focused on different parts of the process and focused on different layers, but I think both are still relevant. I think your description of the fading in and out does show a struggle, a back and forth as you describe - again, was not necessary to repeat.

[ArianaMystic]

@ForeverJung- Hello.
Thanks for replying and giving such an elaborate explanantion.
Umm... will you please tell me how you deduced that her will was gone?

[foreverJung]

@ForeverJung- Hello.
Thanks for replying and giving such an elaborate explanantion.
Umm... will you please tell me how you deduced that her will was gone?

well, the poster used the phrase "her spirit eventually faded for good." When one is awake and one is talking about someone's spirit, you're usually talking about their will. Since we dream in images instead of words, visually seeing a spirit I think would be logical. There's an abstract concept that can be expressed either visually or verbally. Dreams express things visually/creatively/emotionally. I try to use images to work backwards to the abstract concept and then translate it into a verbal form. I think also when dreamers must write out their dream and express them verbally, the choice of words can be very important. "Her spirit faded for good" has a very different feeling than "Her ghost vanished." Since dreams are visually emotive, getting an empathic sense of the language used I think helps connect with the dream. "Ghost" has a haunting feeling, trying to connect, unfinished business, trying to reach out/ communicate; "vanished" has an air of mystery, confusion, surprise (where did it go, why did it go, etc...). "Spirit" on the other hand has a much more positive connotation, it is full of life, light (though it shares an ethereal quality with it's haunting counterpart). "Eventually faded for good" shows a struggle to remain (an act of will that in the end does not succeed), it also shows a degree of anticipation on the part of the viewer, there is also an air of finality and concreteness too the loss. One does not mourn a vanishing ghost, but the loss of a friend gives much cause for grief - and presuming her friend did not actually pass, there are only so many ways we can psychologically loose someone we care about. "Her ghost vanished" is at face value just as verbally valid as "Her spirit eventually faded for good" because they both accurately relate the disappearance of the apparition. However, the dreamer would not have chosen those words, because they do not reflect the emotional content of the scene that was witnessed - it is the emotional content the dream is trying to communicate.

I could still be wrong, after all. Poster didn't really give much feedback to corroborate or refute.

[ArianaMystic]

Hey!!!

Thank you for taking the time. I see and undertand your point. I generally use the same methods.
I also wanted to say that I like your methods of interpretation and of course the interpretation itself.
You seem to have a good groove with dream analysis.

See you in around.(when we roam in other topics)