the doctor ?

[christineg123]

I was sitting in the backyard of a doctors house and we were talking. He was rich and giving me advice. I don't remember everything he said but he gave me a phone number he made me memerize it and keep repeating it. It was 7135888887. He was showing me his pool and other electronics then he said "this is the burning bush" I looked over and it wasn't burning but he was showing me the bugs on the bush and how he could make them light up. I heard someone say that's not it and he got mad and told him that's what God told him it was. What do you think this means? I feel like the doctor, the bush, pool, and phone number meant something?

[Gus Who]

This dream might be about your view on religion. As God was clearly playing with Moses as mankind has to learn...

As water in dreams tends to mean emotions.
So again, some kind of "doc" view on religion, that is in question.

[Varzandeh]

Being a doctor in the dream in interpreted as an honest pious person and spiritual
deeds, for dishonest people means health and livelihood.


If one dreamt a doctor cured an ill person means he will guide someone from sins to a
true way of life.
If dreamt a doctor prescribed medicine and it was effective means he will speak some
scientific words and will teach people will follow his words.
If the medicine was not effective means in the contrary.
A pool means a workplace, swimming means working.No. 700 means you get free from a difficulty or a problem no. 100,000 means achieving a wish is on the way.

[MatsW]

I was sitting in the backyard of a doctors house and we were talking. He was rich and giving me advice. I don't remember everything he said but he gave me a phone number he made me memerize it and keep repeating it. It was 7135888887. He was showing me his pool and other electronics then he said "this is the burning bush" I looked over and it wasn't burning but he was showing me the bugs on the bush and how he could make them light up. I heard someone say that's not it and he got mad and told him that's what God told him it was. What do you think this means? I feel like the doctor, the bush, pool, and phone number meant something?

This is an important dream, otherwise God wouldn't be mentioned. The doctor is probably a symbol of the self, the guiding wholeness of the psyche, as he is on speaking terms with God (see Wikipedia: "Self_in_Jungian_psychology"). The number series is, I suggest, a map of the journey of individuation (see Wikipedia: "Individuation"). There are 5 masculine numbers (odd) and 5 feminine numbers (even), forming a wholeness of 10 numbers that both begin and end with the number 7. 'Seven' contains the number 3 of the heavens and the number 4 of the earth. This mirrors the series as a whole, which contains heaven and earth in equal measure. Seven has always been viewed as a lucky number and as a sublime wholeness. There are seven colors of the rainbow, seven days in a week, and seven notes in the diatonic scale. After completion, the movement begins anew, i.e. it is circular. Your series is also circular, beginning and ending on 7.

Odd numbers are typically regarded as spiritual, associated with Father Heaven, the Yang principle in Taoism. Even numbers are typically associated with Mother Earth and the Yin principle. Arguably, the spiritual numbers in your series undergo a development: (7) 135...7, whereas the even numbers are unchanging: 88888. The whole series that goes from 7 back to 7 is, in itself, a symbol of the self. I think it symbolizes the journey from the original condition of sublime wholeness (7), in the original paradise, back to the very same state of wholeness, although at a higher level. Christian theology is predicated on the same idea: the Fall from original wholeness in the Garden of Eden, via the redemptive work of the Christ, back to wholeness in the form of the Kingdom of Christ, yet better than the original paradise.

Within this wholeness, bracketed by the sevens, your life's journey will go on. It starts at the number 1, which means unconsciousness, i.e. the naive form of wholeness, characteristic of young age. The number 3 generally denotes the expanding and dynamic spirit (cf. von Franz: Number and Time). It is regarded as the number of time, and it is the most notorious symbol of the spirit, as in the Holy Trinity. I believe the number three here denotes the expansion of consciousness. Consciousness, as such, is the most wondrous manifestation of the spirit. Thus, trinitarian wholeness takes over from the unitarian wholeness. An important factor of trinitarian consciousness is understanding, not the least derived from book learning.

After this phase, the mysterious quinary phase takes over, what finalizes the odd number series and the spiritual progression. The Pythagoreans thought of 5 as the marriage between heaven and earth ("hieros gamos"). Similar to 7, it is the sum of a heavenly and an earthly number (3 + 2). I believe it signifies a form of wholeness proponed by the mystics, such as St John of the Cross. It involves the rejection of base worldliness and a return to the earth element in the soul (the "inner earth", or the "inner Mother", as it were), bringing heaven and earth together. The mystics viewed purification as central, i.e. to cleanse the soul of distractions and base desires. From this perspective it is easier to understand the motif of the burning bush. The bush is cleansed from bugs by a process of burning, whereby the bugs are ignited(?) by technical means (provided that I understood it correctly. Or are these shining insects?). Thusly is achieved a purgation by fire. In Christian theology, the Holy Spirit is thought of as an expurgatorial fire, sometimes associated with baptism by fire. Arguably, to have "bugs in the bush" is a similar notion as having "bats in the belfry", which must be cleansed out. Hence, I think the burning bush is a symbol of the self undergoing cleansing by Holy Spirit, during the phase of "five". So it probably represents a higher level of spiritual energy, achieved partly through artificial means. We know that the dream motives are spiritual since God is mentioned.

Next awaits a long time in the darkness of 8 (as there are five eights in a row) before a return to the sublime wholeness of number 7 can occur. The burning of the bush will turn it into black charcoal, although it will later rejuvenate itself like the Phoenix, a well-known symbol of the self. Arguably, the lengthy period of eights refers to the true nigredo of the alchemists, the phase of blackness, occurring after the cleansing process (the purification of the substance in the retort). It might also refer to the infused contemplation of St John of the Cross (cf. "The Dark Night of the Soul"). Number 8 is the number of Saturn, which is a dark god. (In China, however, eight is a lucky number, but this probably lacks relevance, unless you are from Asia). So I think it denotes the long spiritual journey through the blackness of space, which leads to the unio mystica (the union with God). It is the greatest accomplishment that a human can hope to achieve, to make the "night sea journey." So it seems to be a very ambitious dream.

"The night sea journey is a kind of descensus ad inferos – a descent into Hades and a journey to the land of ghosts somewhere beyond this world, beyond consciousness, hence an immersion in the unconscious."[C.G. Jung, "The Psychology of the Transference," CW 16, par. 455.]

The doctor demonstrates diverse electronic devices, e.g., how to ignite the biblical burning bush. I think it means that individuation does not occur by itself, i.e. wholly naturally and instinctually, but needs to be assisted by artificial "technical" means, controlled by consciousness. It refers to "techniques", diverse forms of conscious directionality in the way of know-how, focusing attention, understanding, etc. The fiery purgatory process, the ignition of the bush, must be consciously and deliberately performed at the inception of phase "5". This dream appears "alchemical", in a sense. It is emphasized in the dream that it has its origin in the Godhead. It is in fact the real burning bush. The skeptical voice represents the rationalistic side of yourself. But this voice is immediately rebuked so that you should realize that this is actually the real thing. You are told to repeat this number series in order to remember it, and to be able to understand it some time. However, it is not possible to comprehend wholly on an intellectual plane, as it signifies the mystery of individuation and union with God. I suppose that you have an inner moral capacity to complete such a spiritual journey, otherwise you wouldn't get such a potent message.

What grounds have we for interpreting the number 8 as the nekyia, the journey to Hades, as performed by heroes in Greek and Roman myth? Eight is a very earthy number as it is 4 + 4. Arguably, it is underworldly in quality. Eight is the number of the spider's legs, a Hades animal , if there were any. According to the ancient Egyptian cosmology of Hermopolis, an ogdoad consisting of eight gods is credited with creating the world. The ogdoad also represents the primordial chaos present before creation. After the Golden Age these gods go to the underworld, where they can still influence the world to a degree. Thus, the gods of the underworld are eight by number. (Interestingly, in European fairytales the number nine is often found in the symbolism of hell, the underworld and the realm of the dead, says M-L von Franz, "Archetypal Patterns in Fairy Tales")).

Mats Winther