Some Spiritual Truth

[Edward G.]

God created your soul a long time ago, and through many incarnations in his physical universe he has grown and matured it.

You are always on your spiritual plane at all times, but the input from your senses blinds you to it like the sun blinds you to the stars in the daytime sky. Still, when you sleep, you get a glimpse of it abstractly in your dreams; when you finally shed your body at the end of this incarnation, you will clearly see it again. This has been the case with you over many lifetimes, especially if you're an old soul.

The goal is for you to be like God in your own universe that you create on your own spiritual plane. Like a lucid dream you will have control over things that in this life you have no control over at all. You will be able to create a world and populate it any way you like. But it takes a lot of growth and wisdom to keep that lucid plane from becoming a hell of your own making. Ask yourself what you would do with a million years and the ability to create anything you want. Then you will begin to see the need for the hard-earned wisdom you've gained over the lives you've lived in The Father's physical world.

Messages come to us in our dreams to guide us in this life toward greater wisdom and spiritual fulfilment. God leads us through these nightly prophecies so we can escape our reincarnations and begin to build our own heavens and earths. We are born for only one reason: to grow and then shed this body and try again on our lucid spiritual planes. It's where we came from; it's where we return.

What we call death is merely the waking up to our real environment, our spiritual environment. In this body we think we are just the one person we see in the mirror, but in reality we are the accumulation of many pervious lives. That's who we really are on our spiritual plane. We are growing up into gods.

And in that, I wish you all the best of luck.

Sincerely,

Edward G.

[agnosticXangel]

Very insightful. It makes a lot of sense, actually! Thank you

[Edward G.]

Very insightful. It makes a lot of sense, actually! Thank you

Thank you for reading it. These are the beliefs I've accumulated over the time I've been doing dream interpretation and astrology. People have asked me how I made it all up, and I say I just sort of gleened it from the things I've seen in hundreds of dreams of mine and other people. Then, of course, there are the experiences I've had such as out of body experiences, precognition, and even when I came to prove that consciousness cannot be a product of a central nervous system. I mix all that together with years of philosophical speculation and vigorous debates with atheists, and once I distilled out my traditional Christianity, the above is what I was left with.

It's been important for me to write this down, whether anyone reads it or agrees with it, because it is the foundation of how I interpret dreams now in this forum. So, again, I thank you for taking the time to read it.

Edward

[heartsdreamer]

Very insightful. It makes a lot of sense, actually! Thank you

Thank you for reading it. These are the beliefs I've accumulated over the time I've been doing dream interpretation and astrology. People have asked me how I made it all up, and I say I just sort of gleened it from the things I've seen in hundreds of dreams of mine and other people. Then, of course, there are the experiences I've had such as out of body experiences, precognition, and even when I came to prove that consciousness cannot be a product of a central nervous system. I mix all that together with years of philosophical speculation and vigorous debates with atheists, and once I distilled out my traditional Christianity, the above is what I was left with.

It's been important for me to write this down, whether anyone reads it or agrees with it, because it is the foundation of how I interpret dreams now in this forum. So, again, I thank you for taking the time to read it.

Edward

I came to prove that consciousness cannot be a product of a central nervous system.

What made you come to this conclusion?

[Edward G.]

I came to prove that consciousness cannot be a product of a central nervous system.

What made you come to this conclusion?

In a microbiology class, I watched paramecium feeding on algea, and their activity was obviously willful. This implies consciousness in that animal. I also studied some research dating back to the 1950's in which paramecium remembered and could be trained.

Of course, paramecium are one-celled creatures without any nervous system whatsoever.

I'm actually writing a book, and one of the essays in that book will detail this subject in much greater depth.

[parousia]

The goal is for you to be like God in your own universe that you create on your own spiritual plane.

Are you suggesting that what I want as an individual is irrelevant when pitted against what god wants for me?
- ig You're obviously tight with god and here to set me on the correct path regardless of how convincing my own stupid little belief system is in regards to [whatever]

We are born for only one reason: to grow and then shed this body and try again on our lucid spiritual planes. It's where we came from; it's where we return.

I see you have all figured out then, so why don't you do me a favor and go shed some skin.

[Edward G.]

Are you suggesting that what I want as an individual is irrelevant when pitted against what god wants for me?

Well, yes. I mean, why would you want what you want if you know that God created you for his own purposes? Be that as it may, apparently God wants us to create our own universes the way we want to create them. He helps us not create an eternal hell for ourselves. So, we want what God wants for us, because God loves us and wants our eternal happiness.

- ig You're obviously tight with god and here to set me on the correct path regardless of how convincing my own stupid little belief system is in regards to [whatever]

I'm not here to set you straight on anything. I couldn't care less what you believe.

I see you have all figured out then, so why don't you do me a favor and go shed some skin.

Hey man, you're the one reading my post. Why don't you just walk away instead of getting so upset because someone believes they've found the truth and wants to talk about it. You're free to go be a Catholic or atheist or whatever else you want to be. I'm not insulting you about it, am I?

[parousia]

Well, yes. I mean, why would you want what you want if you know that God created you for his own purposes?

Because I don't know what god wants, nor am I arrogant enough to pretend I do.

Be that as it may, apparently God wants us to create our own universes the way we want to create them.

Apparently god wants you to speak for the entirety of [it's] creation, because you've yet to speak for yourself alone.

I'm not here to set you straight on anything. I couldn't care less what you believe.

That couldn't be further from the truth, Edward G.

Hey man, you're the one reading my post. Why don't you just walk away instead of getting so upset because someone believes they've found the truth and wants to talk about it.

I'm not upset, and you can talk about whatever you want to.
But you posted this thread of answers, so the burden of proof is completely on you.

You're free to go be a Catholic or atheist or whatever else you want to be. I'm not insulting you about it, am I?

Really?
I could have swore you said I could only be what god wanted me to be.

[Theory]

^ man will you getting mad over some sharing of ones own insight. He is just sharing his view of spirituality. You need to get over your self and try to empathize with the way others see the world, and stop treating others insights like its an attack on you.

Thanks for sharing this it is definitively what i have come to conclude through my own experiences. Very eloquently written once again thanks.

Cheers

[SamZee]

Excellent post, it resonates with me well. I absolutely agree with you that consciousness is not the product of the central nervous system. It's a function of the soul. I haven't looked too far into it but there is evidence which supports that. The brain is simply the organ that translates the energy of consciousness into words, actions, feelings, etc. I don't know the details of this particular case but I know there was a man who had a life-threatening brain tumor. Apparently it was bad enough that they actually removed an entire hemisphere of his brain. His IQ actually increased after the operation. You know those super-smart autistics? They're actually missing the part of their brain that separates the two hemispheres. And how about ghost limbs? When people experience pain in a limb that no longer exists, that is. Yes the brain is responsible for sending the pain signal, but if there are no nerve endings anymore, how could the brain project pain into 3 dimensions of space? I won't pretend to understand that one, it's just a rhetorical question to provoke thought.

Good times.

[parousia]

^ man will you getting mad over some sharing of ones own insight.

I'm not mad, and this will be the second time I've said it.

He is just sharing his view of spirituality. You need to get over your self and try to empathize with the way others see the world, and stop treating others insights like its an attack on you.

The post was directed at everyone on a personal level, so it is a personal attack. Moron
You did read it, didn't you?

[Jeff_in_Time]

God created your soul a long time ago, and through many incarnations in his physical universe he has grown and matured it.

You are always on your spiritual plane at all times, but the input from your senses blinds you to it like the sun blinds you to the stars in the daytime sky. Still, when you sleep, you get a glimpse of it abstractly in your dreams; when you finally shed your body at the end of this incarnation, you will clearly see it again. This has been the case with you over many lifetimes, especially if you're an old soul.

The goal is for you to be like God in your own universe that you create on your own spiritual plane. Like a lucid dream you will have control over things that in this life you have no control over at all. You will be able to create a world and populate it any way you like. But it takes a lot of growth and wisdom to keep that lucid plane from becoming a hell of your own making. Ask yourself what you would do with a million years and the ability to create anything you want. Then you will begin to see the need for the hard-earned wisdom you've gained over the lives you've lived in The Father's physical world.

Messages come to us in our dreams to guide us in this life toward greater wisdom and spiritual fulfilment. God leads us through these nightly prophecies so we can escape our reincarnations and begin to build our own heavens and earths. We are born for only one reason: to grow and then shed this body and try again on our lucid spiritual planes. It's where we came from; it's where we return.

What we call death is merely the waking up to our real environment, our spiritual environment. In this body we think we are just the one person we see in the mirror, but in reality we are the accumulation of many pervious lives. That's who we really are on our spiritual plane. We are growing up into gods.

And in that, I wish you all the best of luck.

Sincerely,

Edward G.

Great informative post.
I also believe our dreams show us our life's path and relays messages to us in a way we can safely absorb.

[Edward G.]

^ man will you getting mad over some sharing of ones own insight. He is just sharing his view of spirituality. You need to get over your self and try to empathize with the way others see the world, and stop treating others insights like its an attack on you.

Exactly! I mean the forum is called, "Spirituality and Religious Beliefs."

Thanks for sharing this it is definitively what i have come to conclude through my own experiences. Very eloquently written once again thanks.

Cheers

Thanks for reading and commenting. I, too, have come to this belief not so much through revelation, but through experiences I've had.

[Edward G.]

Excellent post, it resonates with me well. I absolutely agree with you that consciousness is not the product of the central nervous system. It's a function of the soul. I haven't looked too far into it but there is evidence which supports that. The brain is simply the organ that translates the energy of consciousness into words, actions, feelings, etc. I don't know the details of this particular case but I know there was a man who had a life-threatening brain tumor. Apparently it was bad enough that they actually removed an entire hemisphere of his brain. His IQ actually increased after the operation. You know those super-smart autistics? They're actually missing the part of their brain that separates the two hemispheres. And how about ghost limbs? When people experience pain in a limb that no longer exists, that is. Yes the brain is responsible for sending the pain signal, but if there are no nerve endings anymore, how could the brain project pain into 3 dimensions of space? I won't pretend to understand that one, it's just a rhetorical question to provoke thought.

Good times.

Thanks, SamZee, for sharing that.

Ed

[Edward G.]

I'm not mad, and this will be the second time I've said it. The post was directed at everyone on a personal level, so it is a personal attack. Moron
You did read it, didn't you?

Mad or not, you are being very hostile to anyone you feel is "attacking" you. So, do you believe anything? Are you an atheist? It's usually only atheists and Christians that I find getting so hostile over religion.

Great informative post.
I also believe our dreams show us our life's path and relays messages to us in a way we can safely absorb.

Thanks, Jeff!

[parousia]

So, do you believe anything? Are you an atheist? It's usually only atheists and Christians that I find getting so hostile over religion.

I'm not a Christian, nor am I an atheist.
I do believe in something Edward, I sincerely do, but I have no idea what it could possibly be - as should you. It's not hostility, you're mistaken.
I'll leave yo be.

[Edward G.]

I'm not a Christian, nor am I an atheist.
I do believe in something Edward, I sincerely do, but I have no idea what it could possibly be - as should you. It's not hostility, you're mistaken.
I'll leave yo be.

1. It is hostile to call someone a moron.

2. You sincerely believe in "something" but you don't have any idea what it could possibly be. And I should believe the same way. Hey, wait a minute! I thought the whole reason for your hostility was that I was trying to take over your brain and make you believe my way! Now you're telling me to believe your way!

Lovely.

[heartsdreamer]

You guys

[parousia]

You guys

Don't you have some pot to smoke, or a mexican to help across the border- or Cubans, or whatever ethnicity you're kind has latched onto this week?

[woodenspirit]

hey..I got some pot. ya wanna smoke some with me?..deep inhale..up in smoke. i know, I know..ya don't do drugs, or drink and very seldom have sex.

[parousia]

yeah yeah yeah ....
Where have you been?

[woodenspirit]

yeah yeah yeah ....
Where have you been?

Send me a pm telling me who I am..if you answer correctly..I will send you a yankee dime!

[parousia]

After combing through 74 of your post I've come to the conclusion that I don't care who you are.
Soooo......Where have you been?

[woodenspirit]

you went through 74 post..good grief. you must be bored to death. I can't tell you where I have been..only where I am going...

[parousia]

gawd!
okay, where are you going?

[heartsdreamer]

You guys

Don't you have some pot to smoke, or a mexican to help across the border- or Cubans, or whatever ethnicity you're kind has latched onto this week?

Keep on cracking

[heartsdreamer]

I came to prove that consciousness cannot be a product of a central nervous system.

What made you come to this conclusion?

In a microbiology class, I watched paramecium feeding on algea, and their activity was obviously willful. This implies consciousness in that animal. I also studied some research dating back to the 1950's in which paramecium remembered and could be trained.

Of course, paramecium are one-celled creatures without any nervous system whatsoever.

I'm actually writing a book, and one of the essays in that book will detail this subject in much greater depth.

I agree, some unicellular protozoa cells can have certain levels of volition but that's not (human) reflexive consciousness --
the ability for self-reflection. The ability to ponder about our own death, for example.

Whether consciousness originates from neurons or not, there's a fierce debate among neuroscientists and philosophers today with no end in sight soon.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, right?

Good luck with your book