Metaphoric dream about christian teachings?

[Drumstick]

Hi everyone! it's my first post on this forum and guess why? I made a dream worth sharing! It woke me up. I "reviewed" it and thought "Bah, weird nightmare-ish dream again... Hey, this totally could be- Oh, and this- Ooooh and that represents- OH BOY WHAT THE -". Of course I forgot many details, but I will try the recount all the events I can remember.

The dream: It was walking on a sidewalk, at night. Someone who looked like a homeless man (will call him the bum) came asking for money. I declined (I shake my wallet inside of my pocket, no sign of coin, and I'm pretty sure I knew I didnt have notes/did not want to give him notes). The bum got a little impatient and insisted. "I don't have any money for you, man, leave me alone!". So he got mad and called me a liar, trying to blackmail me saying something I think was "I will follow you and tell people you [brutalized] me.... HEY EVERYONE, that guy brutalized me!!" The only person who reacted was an unrelated pedestrian who said something like "yeah, right!" and he walked away, smiling. The bum still followed me. I was fairly scared.

I entered some sort of building. I'm not sure what it was, an office building of some sorts. Looks like I had a job there, the dream did'nt tell what was its nature, but it was a short-term contract. I entered an office and locked the door behind me, without being seen by the bum, but I knew he was around. I shuffled around, kind of clueless and anxious(vague/forgotten part of the dream). I went back at the door (wich had a window) and the bum was right on the other side. He was still insisting I give him something, and I told him to wait right there and that I would find something (Note that the door (from my point of view) was leading directly to stairs going downwards... to an interior parking lot, and I have no recollection of ever climbing these stairs.) I ran to an adjacent room. I found my toolbox there(my dad's actually), filled with various tools. I found a sharpie, but the tip was worn out. I searched some more, found something ressembling another sharpie but it was'nt, so I went back to the old sharpie. I needed to tell someone I was in danger by any means.

Now it gets interesting. I think I heard noise, the bum and one of his friends (some thin hip-hop style, fishy dude) were in the office. The latter said "looks like you have something for us, my friend told me?" I panicked, I went to the adjacent room for a second, looking for a phone but I came back immediately. Some middle-aged man in a suit, was at the door. Thank goodness! I asked him "are you the boss here?" I'm not sure what his answer was about that, but I think he told me "don't worry about them". I looked through the door and saw the bum dressed as a security guard, but I still believed it was a disguise. I asked the suited man him if I could talk to him in private, so we went to the adjacent room.

Then out of nowhere, there was this tall and stately black man in the room, showing his back to me, and I somehow knew he was the real boss here when the suited man was standing to his right, saying nothing. Too bad I can't recall most of what he said, only that it was dangerous for both of us if I saw his face "and I think you know why" (obviously he was some criminal underworld godfather, lol) wich I partly saw, though. Then I recieved an enveloppe, can't recall from which, and got instructed to give it to the bum and his friend, to whom I apologized "for not believing them"(wich does'nt really work with my whole interpretation now that I think of it).

Then it was sunny day. I was out of the office, but the area was some sort of a rather spacious lobby, not a parking lot anymore. The area was well filled, would say 20 people, fairly healthy, some familiar faces in the bunch chatting. Then I saw the big windows and wanted to say "this place feels really different at night, for we can't see the outside because the lighting inside is too strong" or something like that. But I did'nt say it or just went unnoticed, not sure.

Then I woke up.


Okay now for the explanation of my interpretation.

Night: The present state of darkness we or I live in.
The bum: Either an angel testing me or some evil creature doing its job.
his friend: Stood a small role, not quite sure about this one, reinforcements?
The suited man: Jesus.
The big boss: God.
The toolbox: the Bible.
The worn out sharpie: unhelpful part of the Bible. Looked for something else, even less helpful.
The sunny lobby full of people: post-apocalyptic earthly paradise.

Wanted private talk with the suited man, then finally only talked with the black man: prayer/answer to prayers. (Jehovah witnesses end their prayers by saying "I pray you through your son, Jesus") "Jesus" was on the right side of "God" wich makes sense. Also God warned me it was dangerous if I saw his face: the Bible says no one can see his face without dying.)

A bit about me: I was raised in the Jehovah Witnesses but I quit at the age of 15, that's 10 years ago. I later had 2 psychosis with religious/humanity salvation thematics and I am now diagnozed with schizo-affective trouble. I'd like to say I'm agnostic or even atheist, but something "forces" me to believe in godly beings, and of course i'll blame my psychotic state. I never had visual or auditive hallucinations, but I rather would interpret surrounding stimuli to be in relation with my thoughts. Basically everything could be a sign/response to my thoughts. I learned to deal with that and not pay too much attention.. but sometimes, the coincidences are disturbing. For example, after interpreting the dream, one of the first things I saw was a picture with the Beatles Helter Skelter verse "Till I get to the bottom and I see you again" (I really feel like my life is a mess right now, and"you" would be God). And just to mess with me even more, few minutes after, I go read the full lyrics of the song and it ends by "I've got blisters on my fingers", wich I do, and I don't know where they come from.

I don't dare officially stating that God sent me a message through a dream, but what better way of doing it? After all I can't really prove it. It makes a certain sense.

That's it, sorry for the long post. Any opinions, thoughts, questions?

[Gus Who]

In a way, I can relate... but you have to become the best interpreter of your dream, if the bum was working as an angel he could of been seen a pushy christian (Jehovah Witnesses as their MO is go door to door, which could be seen as bumming) ... as you should realize that dreams are a way of viewing things from the Holy Ghost channel. You don't have to go into all that psych babble as everyone is different and could use that kind of stuff for a reason to say that is why they did this or that... which could be truth.

You quote... Exodus 33:20

Also God warned me it was dangerous if I saw his face: the Bible says no one can see his face without dying

This quote was meant for that time period (Exodus) and in context with what was happening... as you don't want to see God angry that is when you die in your sin, as people in the bible saw his face and lived and Jesus stated if you see his face, you see the Father.

I would say you picked up on some of the message... as this world is spinning into darkness and it makes some of what you say as it has a 2012 message (end time message) that you can't real put a sharpie too, but you say ...

Then I saw the big windows and wanted to say "this place feels really different at night, for we can't see the outside because the lighting inside is too strong" or something like that.

My is that the light on the inside has to match the light on the outside to be in balance.

Dream is a note that you can give to the bum who is looking for a tune (Though I don't think you picked up on the right station with Helter Skelter... "as that meaning is In disorderly haste; confusedly; pell-mell. Haphazardly. Carelessly hurried and confused. Haphazard. Turmoil; confusion." That is the world that you see and listen too now!)

[Drumstick]

Thank you for your answer gus

I'll start by reacting to the end: The whole thing about helter skelter is an example of my psychotic interpretations (wich is called selective attention). I don't think I can give it any credibility, but it was one of those weird coincidences.

I felt the bum was asking for something he did'nt really earned or deserved. And was angry because things did'nt go his way, so he bullied and threatened me. He pushed the whole thing to dress/disguise as an authority figure to get something out of me.

Yes, Jehovah witnesses go door to door to make people know about their beliefs, and make new adepts. And outsider eye will automatically will associate JW with door to door, but they are more than that. They preach the end of the world to come soon. If you die then, you just die. Just a few chosen people are anointed and will lead the new world order in heaven, but eternal life on a earthly paradise is the promise most cherish. People will be resurrected and live a life without sin, they will be perfect in all aspects. Even if you live a bad life, but truly repent to God when you face him, you may have your place there. Physical punishment as a kid, elastic dogmatism, no blood transfusion, no birthday celebration(BTW IT'S MY BIRTHDAY WOO ) really suspicious masonic origins, all that stuff makes me hate the organization.

One thing about the lobby I did'nt mention. We can't see outside at night, it feels like there is no windows at all, just big mirrors(even though I don't feel like there is any significant symbolism to "mirror" in this dream). I used to work in a gas bar at night and this phenomenon happened, that's probably where my mind took the reference.I don't like to be confined, I'm desperate for freedom.

I'm pretty out of things to write at the moment, I'll stop here.

[Gus Who]

Well Happy b-day

Again everyone has there moments with the brain doctors go over-board claiming people are this and that, to a point that people believe them... (yeah some of them are off base, but like most people who are on welfare can work, just have to give them a function that they can understand to keep there mind and body in check)

But you know you... and I am not trying to take the ding out of hood of your car here... though "mirror" in dreams goes to reflection of ones mind... as I was raised Catholic and had friends who were JW (I like all the JW that I have met - though the word on the street is that they get in there bum suits and go door to door ... which is pushy, I understand where they are coming from... but like all religions, they want you to join their view point/ group... as a social structure.

In the end time... Jesus will come back and open up the doors to everyone... though many in Churches will not like the sound... (as a Catholic I did not like seeing some of the things that the leadership did and is doing... so I have the right to oppose certain things) as there are 2 billion christians, and many are misinformed with traditional thoughts... like you can't look at Gods face and live, as that is not what God wants people to think.

Yeah - he would get mad at those who taught you that! As freedom to think is choice, and with choice comes individual responsibility... which I believe is the true message, as to be good stewarts of the word and this world. Jesus complained about the "teaching" (man's teaching)

I too should stop beating your drumstick don't want to be seen as pushy as we play for the same band.