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The GOP/Republicans: Party of hate and crazies

Postby heartsdreamer on Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:36 pm

Is the Tea Party Gang Turning GOP Into a Party of Hate?

When John Boehner, the Republican leader of the House, appeared at the Tea Party rally at the Capitol on Thursday afternoon, it was a dramatic signal: The wing-nuts have taken over the GOP.

Think I'm being harsh? The angry folks at the protest -- which attracted several thousand conservatives -- held up signs with messages of hate: "Get the Red Out of the White House," "Waterboard Congress," "Ken-ya Trust Obama?" One called the president a "Traitor to the U.S. Constitution." Another sign showed pictures of dead bodies at the Dachau concentration camp and compared health care reform to the Holocaust. A different placard depicted Obama as Sambo. Yes, Sambo. Another read, "Obama takes his orders from the Rothchilds" -- a reference to the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory holding that one evil Jewish family has manipulated events around the globe for decades.

All of this extremism was on display -- proudly -- at an event that was officially sponsored by the House Republicans. After Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) invited tea partiers to the Capitol to rail against the emerging health care bill, the GOP leadership -- somewhat blindsided by Bachmann -- jumped on board, providing speakers and logistical support for the event. Certainly, the crowd was not made up entirely of bigots; I'm not smearing all the protesters who oppose Obama's health care reform effort. But it cannot be denied: Racism and anti-Semitism were part of an official Republican action.

Extremism was also flowing from the podium, where Republican House members were eager for microphone time. Boehner, for one, declared that the health care bill is the "greatest threat to freedom that I have seen." That's some statement. A greater threat than Hitler's Nazism or Soviet communism? About the same time he was speaking, Obama was making a surprise appearance at the White House daily press briefing to tout the fact that the American Medical Association and AARP, the powerful seniors lobby, have each endorsed the health care reform bill. Here's a question for Boehner: Are these two groups opposed to freedom? And at one point during the rally -- call it a Bachmannalia -- when John Ratzenberger, a.k.a Cliff Clavin from "Cheers," claimed that the Democrats were turning the United States into a land of European socialism, the audience shouted, "Nazis, Nazis." No Republican legislator left the stage in protest. Boehner and his fellow GOP leaders should be asked how they feel about mounting a rally that attracted intense hate-mongering.

With their overheated rhetoric, Boehner and Bachmann (who called this rally "the Super Bowl of freedom") are placing the GOP into a corner -- just at a time when external circumstances are shifting in the party's favor. If the gubernatorial elections in New Jersey and Virginia showed anything, they indicated that moderate Republicans (real or faux) can fare well against Democrats during a time of high unemployment. These two elections also suggested that independents are skittish about the status quo, open to Republican importuning, and perhaps yearning to send incumbents a message -- and most incumbents nowadays are Democrats. The one place where conservatives made a conservative stand was the 23rd congressional district of New York. In that high-profile contest, the Tea Party movement, which had swung behind conservative third-party candidate Doug Hoffman, was defeated by Democrat Bill Owens.

The lesson of all this for GOPers might well be: Don't go crazy; instead, court dissatisfied independents and be a reasonable alternative to the people in power. By embracing the Tea Party mob, Boehner and company are doing none of that. They are partnering with an extremist band that many indies won't identify with. And that may end up giving Democrats a better chance to hold on.

A recent poll found that only 25 percent of Americans have a positive opinion of the Republican Party (compared to 42 percent for the Democrats). Hanging out with "Nazi"-shouters who wave racist and hateful signs is not likely to boost the popular appeal of congressional Republicans. Boehner and company are not merely playing to the base; they're saddling up with the worst elements of the right. It won't be a pretty ride.

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You want more evidence the Tea Party activists are not reality-based? A bunch of them have been promoting the theories of a crackpot Russian academic who predicts that ethnic and racial conflicts will cause the United States to disintegrate within in the next year or so into several different countries. It would be hard to make this stuff up.

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It seems there are two many of these types of people in our country:
1--the ignorant, ill-informed , and uneducated or
2--mentally crazy right wing fringe
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Re: The GOP/Republicans: Party of hate and crazies

Postby Guardian7347 on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:19 pm

Unusual, I know, but I agree with quite a bit of what you said. :o I know, I was stunned too, but do not have a heart attack just yet, as I promise to disagree with you as well.
I agree that the GOP is in a phenomenal position politically, as demonstrated by recent elections. I also agree that sometimes people become so frustrated and feel so out of control of events around them that they behave in irrational and extreme fashion. This sort of behavior is counter-productive to our goals. It sets forth an image, well, like what HD descibes us as. A bunch of racist, hate-mongering lunatics. BTW, I don't think it's too far from the mark calling Obama a traitor to the constitution, but that's another thread.
That said, I look at the title of this thread which reads, "The GOP/Republicans: Party of hate and crazies". Then HD, you say
But it cannot be denied: Racism and anti-Semitism were part of an official Republican action.
This paints a pretty clear picture of how you see the GOP, as anyone who's read your posts can verify.
I'm not smearing all the protesters who oppose Obama's health care reform effort.
But it really sounds like you are! In all fairness though, this IS a more mild posting by you, filled with far less angry rhetoric than I've grown accustomed to. I will commend you for your restraint. :clap: All in all, a very well thought out posting.
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Re: The GOP/Republicans: Party of hate and crazies

Postby Tal on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:32 pm

Actually, Guardian, there are some pretty damning news articles and images relating to anti-Obama sentiment making its way around the globe atm. And they've all been related back to the Republican Party. Internationally, at least, a large majority of people think the GOP is a club of racist loonies that are using mainstream people to do their dirty work for them.
Yes people get upset in times of uncertainty and react inappropriately, but this says a lot more about the leaders these people look up to because they,ve failed to stem the fear and reign in the scaremongering and establish a sense of safety. So far the GOP leadership has let mainstream supporters down very badly either by fanaticism or indifference.
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Re: The GOP/Republicans: Party of hate and crazies

Postby Guardian7347 on Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:44 pm

Tal wrote:Actually, Guardian, there are some pretty damning news articles and images relating to anti-Obama sentiment making its way around the globe atm. And they've all been related back to the Republican Party. Internationally, at least, a large majority of people think the GOP is a club of racist loonies that are using mainstream people to do their dirty work for them.
Yes people get upset in times of uncertainty and react inappropriately, but this says a lot more about the leaders these people look up to because they,ve failed to stem the fear and reign in the scaremongering and establish a sense of safety. So far the GOP leadership has let mainstream supporters down very badly either by fanaticism or indifference.

What a horrifying thought! While I don't personally trust the media to portray anything with the non-bias that should be required of their profession, the portrayal of an entire party of a two-party system as racist loonies is just unacceptable. Still, I will concede that it is MOST unfortunate that too many bring this sort of judgement down upon themselves by their own actions. The tea party groups have legitimate complaints, and started with a very important message that wasn't being addressed. To have that message buried under charges of racism is disappointing to say the least.
It's not JUST a failure on the part of the GOP leadership, although they do share some of the blame. Obama and his administration must share some of the blame as well, after all, they are the ones creating this climate of fear.
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Re: The GOP/Republicans: Party of hate and crazies

Postby Guardian7347 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:34 pm

It's not JUST a failure on the part of the GOP leadership, although they do share some of the blame. Obama and his administration must share some of the blame as well, after all, they are the ones creating this climate of fear
Good, bad, or indifferent, I always take responsibility for what I say. I'm not one to edit out erroreous or flat-out stupid comments, regardless of how I may appear. I can only justify this comment with "it makes more sense when you're extremely sleep deprived". I still think there's some truth to this statement, but sometimes it's hard to concede where the fault lies.
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Re: The GOP/Republicans: Party of hate and crazies

Postby Shipbuilder on Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:34 pm

Your serrriouslly mistaken if you think the tea parties are because of Racism or Anti-semitism.

sadly deceived by the smokescreen that is the mass media.

since im half jewish, and i was in the crowd because im tired of being taxed for the underprividged, who wont work or get a job, that depend on welfare and handouts....and im also a military veteran??

serriouslly deceived by the mass media, that should be the name of this thread.

the democratic party is the ones who are anti-semitic, and you dare say its the republicans??
take a good hard look at what all the democrats bring us........scandal.....tax and spend.
and Obama takes a side against Israel, with the Islamic Jihad??

WOW

i guess when the mass media takes a big dump of propaganda........
you immieiately eat it up
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Re: The GOP/Republicans: Party of hate and crazies

Postby Shipbuilder on Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:40 pm

im not even gonna mention the "death panels" the Veterans who come home after war, will be forced to go through if they have any disability!!!
im not even gonna mention the fact that, "illegal immigrants" will receive health care under this bill!!
im not even gonna mention that it means my health insurance will get taxed!!!
im not even gonna mention that you and i will get taxed again to pay for this catastrophe!!
im not even gonna mention that you obviouslly havent even read the bill, .... to consider such a thing from the protestors, as you know whats in thier mind, as you obvouslly have not touch with reality and are nothing but an egomaniac propagandist
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