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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Dorn on Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:38 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:
blackamythestwillow wrote:a jinn is not real. it's a myth.
I am sorry if you don't believe in them but i do. It's in my religion.
New Age Islam?
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby St. Dymphna on Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:27 am

No psy has even been able to prove their abilities beyond it doesn't work like that.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Dorn on Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:33 am

St. Dymphna wrote:Reading this thread is like watching women trying to enjoy a circle jerk.
Considering that this is a thread with almost 2,000 posts completely void of content, it comes rather close to being a circle jerk in and of itself.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:19 am

Dorn wrote:
SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:
blackamythestwillow wrote:a jinn is not real. it's a myth.
I am sorry if you don't believe in them but i do. It's in my religion.
New Age Islam?


I don't get what you mean by "New Age Islam." Djinn are clearly explained in the Quran. There is even one whole entire Surah dedicated to them. Surah 72 called Djinn.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Dorn on Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:05 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:
Dorn wrote:New Age Islam?
I don't get what you mean by "New Age Islam."
If one applied the same literal-mindedness to, for instance, Socrates and his daimon (which is fairly close to a jinn), then one would turn Platonic philosophy into a New Age phenomenon as well. You see, the message isn't on the surface level.

Djinn are clearly explained in the Quran. There is even one whole entire Surah dedicated to them. Surah 72 called Djinn.
"Clearly explained"? They aren't even defined beyond "invisible beings" who know "what is hidden" from humankind. That's not much of a definition, squire.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:57 am

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SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:
Dorn wrote:New Age Islam?
I don't get what you mean by "New Age Islam."
If one applied the same literal-mindedness to, for instance, Socrates and his daimon (which is fairly close to a jinn), then one would turn Platonic philosophy into a New Age phenomenon as well. You see, the message isn't on the surface level.

Djinn are clearly explained in the Quran. There is even one whole entire Surah dedicated to them. Surah 72 called Djinn.
"Clearly explained"? They aren't even defined beyond "invisible beings" who know "what is hidden" from humankind. That's not much of a definition, squire.


I think Socrate's daemon is the same thing as a Djinn. So what are you trying to say? What is the definition of the Djinn in the Quran mean to you? Are you saying that they
are speaking metaphorically when talking about Djinns instead of literally?
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Dorn on Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:36 pm

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:I think Socrate's daemon is the same thing as a Djinn. So what are you trying to say?
That the phenomenon (jinn or daimon) isn't altogether foreign to Western culture.

What is the definition of the Djinn in the Quran mean to you? Are you saying that they
are speaking metaphorically when talking about Djinns instead of literally?
Not just metaphorically but allegorically. That is, a message conveyed by means of symbolism. (Also known as mutashabihat with regards to the Koran.)
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:39 pm

What is the definition of the Djinn in the Quran mean to you? Are you saying that they
are speaking metaphorically when talking about Djinns instead of literally?
Not just metaphorically but allegorically. That is, a message conveyed by means of symbolism. (Also known as mutashabihat with regards to the Koran.)[/quote]

It doesn't make sense at all to me. I don't think you have read the Quran properly. Are you a Christian or Muslim?
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Dorn on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:30 pm

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:It doesn't make sense at all to me.
Are you referring to the textual function of allegory or mutashabihat? They are similar, yet the latter mainly term refers to the meaning being hidden--that is, beyond the literal.

I don't think you have read the Quran properly.
I haven't even read all of it, but if you take your religion seriously--which I know Muslims who do--then you should know that there are at least five different ways in which to read Islamic texts, the literal being the least sophisticated. (And "New Age" is more or less unsophisticated, eclectic religiosity.)

Are you a Christian or Muslim?
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby tsetse22 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:57 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:Am i psychic if i see swirly blue energy at night or dark places all the time??? I have been seeing them since 6 years.


The connection between the cones and rods in the human eye, and the part of the brain that translates or rectifies images allowing you to see is a very complex process. What occurs in the visual cortex can be made to (or perceived to) correspond with other interpretive process in the brain. jus' sayin.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:51 am

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SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:Am i psychic if i see swirly blue energy at night or dark places all the time??? I have been seeing them since 6 years.


The connection between the cones and rods in the human eye, and the part of the brain that translates or rectifies images allowing you to see is a very complex process. What occurs in the visual cortex can be made to (or perceived to) correspond with other interpretive process in the brain. jus' sayin.


Yes yes i know. The rods provide sense of light and dark and the cones provide the color. I found the following in a website ( i can't post websites yet in posts):

Current understanding is that the 6 to 7 million cones can be divided into "red" cones (64%), "green" cones (32%), and "blue" cones (2%) based on measured response curves. They provide the eye's color sensitivity. The green and red cones are concentrated in the fovea centralis . The "blue" cones have the highest sensitivity and are mostly found outside the fovea, leading to some distinctions in the eye's blue perception. The "blue" cones are identified by the peak of their light response curve at about 445 nm. They are unique among the cones in that they constitute only about 2% of the total number and are found outside the fovea centralis where the green and red cones are concentrated. Although they are much more light sensitive than the green and red cones, it is not enough to overcome their disadvantage in numbers. However, the blue sensitivity of our final visual perception is comparable to that of red and green, suggesting that there is a somewhat selective "blue amplifier" somewhere in the visual processing in the brain.

Does that mean that my blue part of the cones are increased in numbers and sensitive or what? They also said the blue cones are unique. It said there is a blue amplifier somewhere in the visual processing of the brain.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:38 am

Dorn wrote:
SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:It doesn't make sense at all to me.
Are you referring to the textual function of allegory or mutashabihat? They are similar, yet the latter mainly term refers to the meaning being hidden--that is, beyond the literal.

I don't think you have read the Quran properly.
I haven't even read all of it, but if you take your religion seriously--which I know Muslims who do--then you should know that there are at least five different ways in which to read Islamic texts, the literal being the least sophisticated. (And "New Age" is more or less unsophisticated, eclectic religiosity.)

Are you a Christian or Muslim?
Evangelical-Lutheran.


Well most muslims are supposed to take the existence of Djinn literally, not allegorically. I don't know which sect of muslims you are talking about or if the ones you know don't believe in it.
But in the Mosques here in New York City they talk about Djinns literally, not allegorically.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Dorn on Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:43 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:Well most muslims are supposed to take the existence of Djinn literally, not allegorically. I don't know which sect of muslims you are talking about or if the ones you know don't believe in it.
All Sunni and significantly educated.

The next time you're at a mosque, just ask your imam about mutashabihat.

But in the Mosques here in New York City they talk about Djinns literally, not allegorically.
Maybe you're not listening carefully enough. Do you read the Koran translated into either English or modern Arabic?
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby tsetse22 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:45 am

I dunno the answer to your question.

Awhile ago I was researching, really just looking into, what and how we 'see' before and during sleep from a cinematographic or Computer Animated Graphics standpoint a while ago. morphing clouds, contrasts of negative's and positive blurs, motion, color, feild of vision, scene jumps, attitudes and emotions creating diff. backgrounds and faces, ect.. I was sure the waviness and blurred edge lens used in the past could be improved on when recreating what a dream looks like on film.

Rather than considering the optic's into the eye, consider the brain's side in decoding visual stimuli. Seems the brain has, to my reckoning, areas in it's perception, or 'field of view', that are more sensitive to motion color and contrast. I assume from eons of development as needed to hunt and survive. For example the seemingly active grids of color pebbles and spinning lattice more so straight ahead and down a bit so that one can so easily pick up on movement. Close your eyes and you can imagine to see these with your eyes closed...and how pressure on the eyes changes perceived light and how electro-chemical and brain waves also effect how we see. Light is just particle waves after all. And the brain is known to have electro-chemically stimulated synapses ect. So I was just gas-lighting the brain's input/output as opposed to considering the input/output of the eyes. They are two distinctly different process's.

So my point was a concept applied to the aforementioned things. That our thought processes are tied to our visual perception in two directions rather than just input. What we see is not our eyes but by our brain. I dunno if I mean illusion or hallucination. But our conceived reality, along with chemistry and mental influences make for many possibilities of what and how we 'see' and effect what we think we see.

So seeing blue cloudy images as a child, ~ it may have been a combination of those more clinical and psychological factors rather than something ethereal. Which is the bottom line of what I tried to say.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:13 pm

Dorn wrote:
SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:Well most muslims are supposed to take the existence of Djinn literally, not allegorically. I don't know which sect of muslims you are talking about or if the ones you know don't believe in it.
All Sunni and significantly educated.

The next time you're at a mosque, just ask your imam about mutashabihat.

But in the Mosques here in New York City they talk about Djinns literally, not allegorically.
Maybe you're not listening carefully enough. Do you read the Koran translated into either English or modern Arabic?


Ha ha you're a funny guy. So you're saying that i am uneducated? lol Just to let you know my GPA in High School was 3.6. And i went to college for 2 years, but later dropped out because i had lack of interest in it or it's insignificance. I am Sunni as well. In that case, you shouldn't believe in Satan, because he is a Djinn too. You shouldn't believe in magic either.

Let me tell you, i have taken philosophy and some psychology courses. But still after all that, i believe in magic and astrology and Djinns ....etc I knew a few of my classmates and friends from high school (including the Valedictorian) who didn't believe in astrology and magic when they took the psychology class. But i still did. Because i know it exists. You are limited only by your own perception of reality. The matrix movie should be a good example (my favorite movie ever!). That the reason Neo Anderson (Keanu Reeves) can fly and fight agents is because he believes in himself.
If you believe that if you touch fire and will get burnt, you will. But if you believe that you can go unharmed touching fire, then you will go unharmed (although it requires great practice, belief itself is not the catalyst for such phenomenon).
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:18 pm

tsetse22 wrote:I dunno the answer to your question.

Awhile ago I was researching, really just looking into, what and how we 'see' before and during sleep from a cinematographic or Computer Animated Graphics standpoint a while ago. morphing clouds, contrasts of negative's and positive blurs, motion, color, feild of vision, scene jumps, attitudes and emotions creating diff. backgrounds and faces, ect.. I was sure the waviness and blurred edge lens used in the past could be improved on when recreating what a dream looks like on film.

Rather than considering the optic's into the eye, consider the brain's side in decoding visual stimuli. Seems the brain has, to my reckoning, areas in it's perception, or 'field of view', that are more sensitive to motion color and contrast. I assume from eons of development as needed to hunt and survive. For example the seemingly active grids of color pebbles and spinning lattice more so straight ahead and down a bit so that one can so easily pick up on movement. Close your eyes and you can imagine to see these with your eyes closed...and how pressure on the eyes changes perceived light and how electro-chemical and brain waves also effect how we see. Light is just particle waves after all. And the brain is known to have electro-chemically stimulated synapses ect. So I was just gas-lighting the brain's input/output as opposed to considering the input/output of the eyes. They are two distinctly different process's.

So my point was a concept applied to the aforementioned things. That our thought processes are tied to our visual perception in two directions rather than just input. What we see is not our eyes but by our brain. I dunno if I mean illusion or hallucination. But our conceived reality, along with chemistry and mental influences make for many possibilities of what and how we 'see' and effect what we think we see.

So seeing blue cloudy images as a child, ~ it may have been a combination of those more clinical and psychological factors rather than something ethereal. Which is the bottom line of what I tried to say.



Yes Yes you can be right. Perhaphs those blue lights are Djinn, since usually they appear invisible. But my desire to see and communicate Djinn “forced” my brain to start seeing them. I have been obsessed with Djinn since like 7 or 8 years.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Dorn on Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:17 pm

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:Ha ha you're a funny guy.
I have my moments.

So you're saying that i am uneducated? lol Just to let you know [...] i went to college for 2 years, but later dropped out [...]
I stand corrected----

In that case, you shouldn't believe in Satan, because he is a Djinn too.
I'm a Christian. A jinn has as little relevance to my faith as Socrates' daimon; they're curiosities.

You shouldn't believe in magic either.
I don't. The only relevance with regards to this is the occurrence of the three wise men; "magi" is simply the Latin plural of "magus," which does not denote magician but priest, astrologer, augur, or similar professions.

[...] i believe in magic and astrology and Djinns [...] Because i know it exists.
Regardless of what you believe, "know" and "exist" relate to categories that you must be able to demonstrate if they are to have any purpose.

You are limited only by your own perception of reality. The matrix movie should be a good example (my favorite movie ever!). That the reason Neo Anderson (Keanu Reeves) can fly and fight agents is because he believes in himself.
Primarily, you should know that the main creator of The Matrix, Larry Wachowski, is projecting his deterministic worldview, not engaging in philosophical or spiritual representation. He is more into sadomasochism, transvestism, and the general torment of impossible tasks. Apparently, his dominatrix is the main source of inspiration to his various works, like his first movie, Bound (1996). Nevertheless, this may work just fine with your eclectic approach.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:03 pm

Dorn wrote:
SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:Ha ha you're a funny guy.
I have my moments.

So you're saying that i am uneducated? lol Just to let you know [...] i went to college for 2 years, but later dropped out [...]
I stand corrected----

In that case, you shouldn't believe in Satan, because he is a Djinn too.
I'm a Christian. A jinn has as little relevance to my faith as Socrates' daimon; they're curiosities.

You shouldn't believe in magic either.
I don't. The only relevance with regards to this is the occurrence of the three wise men; "magi" is simply the Latin plural of "magus," which does not denote magician but priest, astrologer, augur, or similar professions.

[...] i believe in magic and astrology and Djinns [...] Because i know it exists.
Regardless of what you believe, "know" and "exist" relate to categories that you must be able to demonstrate if they are to have any purpose.

You are limited only by your own perception of reality. The matrix movie should be a good example (my favorite movie ever!). That the reason Neo Anderson (Keanu Reeves) can fly and fight agents is because he believes in himself.
Primarily, you should know that the main creator of The Matrix, Larry Wachowski, is projecting his deterministic worldview, not engaging in philosophical or spiritual representation. He is more into sadomasochism, transvestism, and the general torment of impossible tasks. Apparently, his dominatrix is the main source of inspiration to his various works, like his first movie, Bound (1996). Nevertheless, this may work just fine with your eclectic approach.


Education has nothing to do with beliefs in these stuff. But sometimes people do lose faith. Science also teaches you that God doesn’t exist. I bet you don’t take that part into you beliefs. You only take the parts which suit your purposes and fit your comfort zone. Science would then would also be able to say that miracles like the resurrection of Jesus are not possible either.
So then that means you also don’t believe the Magic, Exorcism and Miracles performed by the prophets and Jesus that are mentioned in the bible also? You are contradicting yourself.

This is what I got from a website:

Exorcism refers to the ritual process by which indwelling evil spirits, or demons, are compelled to leave a person's body.
Christianity has traditionally taught that Satan and his hordes of demons roam throughout the world attempting to harm and destroy humans. This belief entered Christianity from Judaism in the 1st century CE. There are many dozens of passages in the Christian Scriptures that describe how demons were believed to possess a human and cause them to behave strangely. Much mental and physical illness was attributed to this cause. A major part of the Gospel message concerns Jesus' healing ministry, where he is recorded as exorcising evil spirits from the bodies of numerous sick people.
Belief in indwelling evil spirits, and thus belief in the necessity of exorcism, continues to the present time among many conservative Christians. To disbelieve in the reality of evil entities like Satan and his demons would require them to abandon belief in the inerrancy (freedom of error) of the Bible .
Liberal Christians have long abandoned belief in demons. They regard these Biblical passages as quaint literature from a pre-scientific age.

And to sum it up, this topic is about “Learning to be psychic” NOT about religions and yout view of Islam or Djinns. So I am not gonna answer the rest of the posts unless it has to do with the supernatural stuff. I don’t even know why you are in this topic since you like debunking supernatural beliefs and phenomenon.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby tsetse22 on Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:08 pm

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote: But my desire to see and communicate Djinn “forced” my brain to start seeing them. I have been obsessed with Djinn since like 7 or 8 years.

okay. If you ever meet one, don't forget to wish for more wishes....lolz
j/k'g I know it isn't the same as a genie...btw

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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Dorn on Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:17 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:Science also teaches you that God doesn’t exist. I bet you don’t take that part into you beliefs.
God is relevant to metaphysics, not to science.

So then that means you also don’t believe the Magic, Exorcism and Miracles performed by the prophets and Jesus that are mentioned in the bible also? You are contradicting yourself.
I haven't contradicted myself on any point whatsoever. "Magic" has no part in Scripture, exorcism is only relevant to conservative Catholics and some fundamentalist sects, and a miracle relates to a metaphysical perspective of the causally untraceable event relevant to transcendental idealism (highlighting that the ultimate forces of reality are posited beyond human comprehension).

I don’t even know why you are in this topic since you like debunking supernatural beliefs and phenomenon.
I haven't debunked anything. I have merely pointed out the eclectic nature of your merger between New Age, The Matrix, and Islam, alongside your misuse of language.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby tsetse22 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:44 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:This is what I got from a website:

Exorcism refers to the ritual process by which indwelling evil spirits, or demons, are compelled to leave a person's body.
Christianity has traditionally taught that Satan and his hordes of demons roam throughout the world attempting to harm and destroy humans. This belief entered Christianity from Judaism in the 1st century CE. There are many dozens of passages in the Christian Scriptures that describe how demons were believed to possess a human and cause them to behave strangely. Much mental and physical illness was attributed to this cause. A major part of the Gospel message concerns Jesus' healing ministry, where he is recorded as exorcising evil spirits from the bodies of numerous sick people.
Belief in indwelling evil spirits, and thus belief in the necessity of exorcism, continues to the present time among many conservative Christians. To disbelieve in the reality of evil entities like Satan and his demons would require them to abandon belief in the inerrancy (freedom of error) of the Bible .
Liberal Christians have long abandoned belief in demons. They regard these Biblical passages as quaint literature from a pre-scientific age.

I disagree with the information you've cited above, realizing of course that you didn't write it, but suggesting you should not buy it in full. "Liberal Christians? whaa?" Does he mean Episcopalians or Unitarians? LOL

To my knowledge, a well versed Christian knows/believes that attempts to be in Gods grace will face obstacles, by both our own nature and evil influence (demonic) it is in part what we suffer and defend through our entire lives here in preparation to enter God's Kingdom reborn, exactly as we are warned, as well as promised, advised, and instructed in the Biblical Red Letters of scripture. No amount of watering down these points can be attributed to man's misinterpretation when translating canon and scroll... inho. So if a Liberal Christian doesn't "get" this, how is that Christian at all?

I can say this is an interesting thread. The current debate, now askew from it's orig. intent, raises an important question for anyone dabbling in the use or study of Psychic ability. My comments, I feel are important to those reading this thread, and one is welcome to not agree but should cite the caution expressed, that said:
If one forgets God when they 'play psychic'... they are naked to negative and spiritually harmful forces. Call them whatever you want. The Apostle Peter sinking in to the Sea of Galilee just as he takes his eyes off of the Christ comes to mind as a type of point making example...Only God can protect his children who obey him.
But obviously, I speak just from a believers opinion and POV.

Also, consider the story of Balaam's talking donkey on this one.....
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby tsetse22 on Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:42 am

I've been thinking more. If say, an agnostic, combined the last two points/posts of mine, about vision and how demons are an intrinsic part of Christianity then they might consider that even in the vacuum of religion's legitimacy, that one "see's" what one thinks and/or believes.

Ergo, even if you aren't susceptible to negative spirits per-se, dabbling in occult-ish, the ethereal realm or even necro-communicative attempts like seances etc., ..the whole psychic realm - then that "buying in" to one side means buying in to the other. Hence the potential danger, either real or psychiatric.

...Just some thoughts I had. Hope they help someone.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Jeff_in_Time on Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:56 am

I think everyone has intuition, only a matter of tapping into it.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby alynmo on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:24 am

I read your list and was amazed that it did not contain"Tasseomancy" or "Tasseography", the art of reading tea leaves or coffee grounds. Tea leaf readings are some what different then coffee readings and I have never read tea leaves before. Turkish Coffee readings I learned how to do when I was about nine. Coffee readings are over four thousand years old and is a very social thing. Several friends may have coffee together and take turns passing the cups and saucers around saying what they are seeing.

You drink a small cup of coffee with the grounds at the bottom of the cup, drain the cup on the saucer and drain the cup and saucer on a napkin. The rest is like laying on your back and watching the clouds change shapes. The patterns left by the grounds form symbols, animals, objects, people, landscapes, numbers, letters, and on a couple of occasions I have even seen entire words spelled out. All of these pictures have some kind of meaning and especially when interacting with other picture symbols. When I am having a very clear day I can see photographic images of people and places. It's a very interesting and accurate reading. Be warned tho... Too much caffeine can cause this to happen ---> :goldblob: or maybe this ---> :neer: and you might find yourself not getting enough of this ---> :dreams:

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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby lundayj2008 on Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:23 pm

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RoseBlue wrote:I hope so but I am sure its going to be are you a reader and will you do a reading for me. I would like to know more myself and its nice to get insight from other readers and I wouldn't mind teaching people what I know. So yeah hopefully people will reply to this.


How many cards do you have in your deck- and what are the definitions?
I have some online sources which seem to offer pretty decent definitions, but I'm just wondering=)

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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby neverdyinglotus on Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:03 pm

No 1 can really learn how 2 be a psychic !! Being a psychic is truly a gift ! It is not a gift 4 us 2 show it off & make money off of it. If every1 can learn 2 be a psychic then who's gonna pick up the garbage huh? We still need the garbage men 2 do the dirty work. Anyways, there's only a small cluster of us all over and we can't use our gift until we know why we have the gift & wut or how 2 use it. But truly our purpose is 2 help ppl & only use it 4 good.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby happydreamer on Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:33 pm

neverdyinglotus wrote:No 1 can really learn how 2 be a psychic !! Being a psychic is truly a gift ! It is not a gift 4 us 2 show it off & make money off of it. If every1 can learn 2 be a psychic then who's gonna pick up the garbage huh? We still need the garbage men 2 do the dirty work. Anyways, there's only a small cluster of us all over and we can't use our gift until we know why we have the gift & wut or how 2 use it. But truly our purpose is 2 help ppl & only use it 4 good.


You're right to some degree. It's like playing baseball, just about anyone can pick up a bat and run around the bases; however, to be a Babe Ruth you need to practice, practice, practice. Maybe Babe Ruth's natural ability was higher than most, but he certainly didn't go into the major leagues and set records without some practice. He probably also had to figure out the best position to play or hitting strategy, etc. So you're right, it's a gift, but if you don't develop it or use it, it will fade away. There's different types of psychic gifts and some will be better at one type than another and you need to explore to determine what type you are. Also, i'm sure Babe Ruth was paid for his abilities. Many people enjoyed watching him play and were willing to PAY to see him do so. Are you suggesting that all psychics should work for free? Yes, money can be corrupting to everyone, not just psychics, but a blanket statement that they shouldn't show it off or make money from it is shortsighted. It's no different than any other skill or talent.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby BlissBaby13 on Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:33 am

Hey, if you're interesting in raising your vibration and becoming more aware of the world, read this ---> http://issuu.com/ericm814/docs/the_flower_of_life
It blew my mind right out from my face, trust me. ^^ <3
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:22 pm

alynmo wrote:I read your list and was amazed that it did not contain"Tasseomancy" or "Tasseography", the art of reading tea leaves or coffee grounds. Tea leaf readings are some what different then coffee readings and I have never read tea leaves before. Turkish Coffee readings I learned how to do when I was about nine. Coffee readings are over four thousand years old and is a very social thing. Several friends may have coffee together and take turns passing the cups and saucers around saying what they are seeing.

You drink a small cup of coffee with the grounds at the bottom of the cup, drain the cup on the saucer and drain the cup and saucer on a napkin. The rest is like laying on your back and watching the clouds change shapes. The patterns left by the grounds form symbols, animals, objects, people, landscapes, numbers, letters, and on a couple of occasions I have even seen entire words spelled out. All of these pictures have some kind of meaning and especially when interacting with other picture symbols. When I am having a very clear day I can see photographic images of people and places. It's a very interesting and accurate reading. Be warned tho... Too much caffeine can cause this to happen ---> :goldblob: or maybe this ---> :neer: and you might find yourself not getting enough of this ---> :dreams:

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Really? that's cool. I have read about reading tea leaves a few years ago. Are you turkish?
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby marapka on Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:47 pm

I often have dreams were I will be in a certain place with certain people. Then BAM!! I get a major deja vu feeling. Sometimes the people will say exactly what they said in the dream as they do in real life. When I have these dreams the "deja vu" can take place the next day, a week or even months after I have had these dreams. hmmm... could that be a physic ability?
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby CocoCraz123 on Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:47 pm

Um...
Can someone help me do Astral Projection?
I think I have done it before... But I don't remember....
Anyone, PLEASE help me!
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SamZee on Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:05 pm

marapka wrote:I often have dreams were I will be in a certain place with certain people. Then BAM!! I get a major deja vu feeling. Sometimes the people will say exactly what they said in the dream as they do in real life. When I have these dreams the "deja vu" can take place the next day, a week or even months after I have had these dreams. hmmm... could that be a physic ability?

Perhaps you do have prophetic dreams, but the key word here is synchronicity. I would suggest you look into that if anything, and gain an understanding as to how and why we experience it. I think it would be enlightening for you. =]
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SamZee on Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:06 pm

CocoCraz123 wrote:Um...
Can someone help me do Astral Projection?
I think I have done it before... But I don't remember....
Anyone, PLEASE help me!

Unfortunately I don't have a ton of experience with AP, but I've done it a good number of times. Everyone has different methods of achieving it, so I'll explain mine. The way I see it, there are two keys. Those being the Theta state, and pineal gland activation. In my case, I lay down and try to enter a very light stage of sleep while retaining consciousness. It's the "mind-awake, body-asleep" state. I could move my body if I wanted to, but it would would being me out of Theta-wave activity. Now this is the part that I have a hard time with, and that's the activation of the pineal gland. I like to think of the pineal gland/third eye as an engine. I find it difficult to turn on, and in fact I've mostly gotten lucky with that, but when it is running, then I have the ability to rev it and put it into gear. Concentrate on the exact epicenter of your brain, and you'll begin to feel some weird sensations. The sensations may feel uncomfortable and even a bit scary at first if you're not used to it. At this point your pineal gland is begining to activate, and now it's your job to rev it. It's hard to explain how that's done, but I will attempt to do so. You have to give into the sensations that you're feeling. You have to allow it to continue and in so doing, focus on the sensations and will them to intensify. When it gets more intense, it feels like it's accelerating in some way. You may feel/hear a passing crackling sensations, and definitely an intense buzzing/vibrating sensation. Once it becomes as intense as it can, your consciousness shifts over to your astral body from your physical one, and you may separate from yourself. Some people swear by different visualization methods for body departure, but I just sit up in bed as I would normally will my body to do so, only it's my astral body instead.

Thing to remember is that the astral plane is different than the physical plane we know so well. It can be the same, but us noobs have a very hard time with this. Our perceptions are distorted and sometimes completely subjective to what we want to see. This definitely takes a lot of practice. Hopefully this helped. =]
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby Hadria on Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:52 am

I want to learn to improve my skills but I feel like I need a teacher and the psychic ladies I run into always say That I need one too but they aren't my teacher but ... they cant ever tell me who it is ether. Its depressing.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby LadyVanHelsing on Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:04 pm

I have had some experiences, both when I was little and as a (relative) adult. I started being able to see auras when I was in eighth grade, and now they're gotten greater. And it doesn't stop there.

When we were living in Pennsylvania, there was an urban legend going around our neighborhood that one of the houses had rafters under the kitchen that were too weak, so the kitchen island could fall into the basement at any time. My mom was so worried that it was our house but she told no one about her fear. One morning, I came downstairs and told her, "I had a dream the kitchen island was in the basement." This was when I was about five or six.

Junior year of high school, my friend "Jamie" had a strong crush on our friend "Josh", to the point that she was losing sleep and not eating. One night I had a dream where I took Josh to Halloween Horror Nights at Universal Studios (I lived in Florida at the time) and hid behind him half the time. I then learned that Jamie was planning to ask Josh to Halloween Horror Nights all weekend—I had the dream Monday morning.
Another thing that happened junior year was that I was trying to go to sleep, but my mind kept getting so cluttered; I suddenly heard a teenage man go, "Shhhhhh," and my mind got clear. This happened twice more, and then I heard a voice say, "Go to sleep." That is the fastest I've ever fallen asleep in my life.

I can still communicate with this guy—he calls himself "Tristan"—if I relax and trust him. I've yet to see him in person but I think he's a spirit guide, due to a psychic telling me that was what he was.

I have another spirit guide now. She calls herself "Sophie", and I learned about her through a psychic after I mentioned a nightmare that featured her name. I can communicate with her and Tristan—as well as hear other voices, if I relax enough—through my thoughts.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SamZee on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:35 pm

It's awesome that you know your guides by name. Wish I did. My guides and higher Self communicate with me frequently through synchronicity and inspired thought but they still remain rather veiled.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby LadyVanHelsing on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:42 pm

SamZee wrote:It's awesome that you know your guides by name. Wish I did. My guides and higher Self communicate with me frequently through synchronicity and inspired thought but they still remain rather veiled.


Well I'm not sure whether they're spirit guides or tag-along spirits from other lives (if there's a difference). The psychic who brought Tristan and Sophie to my attention said that I may have had some spirits stay by my side even after I reincarnated, since after she read me, "Tristan" and "Sophie" sounded familiar (how they sounded familiar she didn't mention)
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SamZee on Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:00 pm

I see. Interesting. =]
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:26 pm

Hadria wrote:I want to learn to improve my skills but I feel like I need a teacher and the psychic ladies I run into always say That I need one too but they aren't my teacher but ... they cant ever tell me who it is ether. Its depressing.



Me too i've been wanting a teacher. But who did you ask and where? Some lady online told me that i have some psy abilities. And also since i was 15 i keep seeing swirly blue
energies at night (lights turned off). It would be so strong that it would completely fill my entire eyesight. Now i am 22 and it has become very less but still there. But i don't
know what it was. Can anyone explain what it is? Thanks
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SamZee on Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:36 am

The ability to see energies like that is a wonderful thing. It normally indicates a relatively open third eye. Also known as the Third-Eye Chakra, 6th-Chakra, 6th Ray, Indigo Ray, Indigo energy center -- whatever you want to call it. A relatively active Indigo energy center would enable such a perception, as well as one's psychic ability. What you're seeing could very well be the aura of a disembodied soul. A kindred spirit that visits you at night as they commonly do.

Regarding teachers/spiritual guidance:

When it comes to this sort of stuff, it is imperative to understand that a teacher can only provide information and guidance for that which is requested. You can't just teach someone this stuff. They must actively seek the information with the potential and willingness to understand it. So if I were to teach you guys some spiritual philosophy, I could only do that insofar as is requested. It would be wrong for me to express teaching without the proper request and seeking of your free will -- which must always be preserved. Does this make sense?
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby tsetse22 on Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:01 am

SamZee wrote:The ability to see energies like that is a wonderful thing. It normally indicates a relatively open third eye. Also known as the Third-Eye Chakra, 6th-Chakra, 6th Ray, Indigo Ray, Indigo energy center -- whatever you want to call it. A relatively active Indigo energy center would enable such a perception, as well as one's psychic ability. What you're seeing could very well be the aura of a disembodied soul. A kindred spirit that visits you at night as they commonly do.

Regarding teachers/spiritual guidance:

When it comes to this sort of stuff, it is imperative to understand that a teacher can only provide information and guidance for that which is requested. You can't just teach someone this stuff. They must actively seek the information with the potential and willingness to understand it. So if I were to teach you guys some spiritual philosophy, I could only do that insofar as is requested. It would be wrong for me to express teaching without the proper request and seeking of your free will -- which must always be preserved. Does this make sense?


Crystal clear in fact. Well said!
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SamZee on Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:05 pm

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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby tsetse22 on Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:37 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:
.... And also since i was 15 i keep seeing swirly blue
energies at night (lights turned off). It would be so strong that it would completely fill my entire eyesight. Now i am 22 and it has become very less but still there. But i don't know what it was. Can anyone explain what it is? Thanks


I did a paper in College once about the connection between the eyes and the brain. It was long ago & I forget the
exact details, but I do recall it involved rods and cone and the physical aspects of the eye and they way light is encoded into vision through the optic nerves into a specific area of the brain where it is decoded.

It's very hard to explain the things I see when I close my eyes, begin to sleep (similar to the things we tend to see when we press or rub our eyes) Back then CGI was in it's infancy so I bet today someone could do so much on the subject. Besides clouds that alternate from a negative image to a positive image. What is it? I dunno, eye-ball juice? ha ha ha. Also I "see" tiny moving latices in both eyes in the area just below 'straight ahead' which I assume are brain generated to help me pick up motion. I also see small section/grids of what are like old TV screen 'pixels' primary colors that I assume are color receptors generated to my closed eye vision to work out color reception...

There's tons of optical illusions involving inverse colors, continuity of motion, retinal fatigue, & on and on....

We tend to see faces where they aren't and interpret through expectation, missing "frames" of action so to speak - which is why the hand is quicker than the eye.... I personally feel there is something over-assuming about the ability to see aura's & other things outside normal temporal light wavelengths. That's all just an opinion of course.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SamZee on Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:32 pm

Just a fun fact.

The pineal gland has what are called pinealocytes and they are very similar to the photoreceptor cells in the retina. (The rods & cones.)
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby DRLHyper on Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:35 pm

True facts:
  • In documentaries: Psychs are called by the police to help resolve crime. They are more or less accurate and helpful. Psychs are efficient, specialized people who take their 'job' very seriously. Their input is sometimes even essential to solving out crimes -- sometimes, the information provided by the psych would not have been possible to be obtained in other ways. In some rare instances, the psych himself/herself carries most of the investigation.
  • In reality: If there is any ability on the part of a psychic to supply law enforcement officials with relevant data which might assist in obtaining the solution to a crime, that ability should be cultivated and used. To find out if psychics could assist the police, American psychologist Dr. Martin Reiser conducted two extensive investigations into the use of psychics by the Los Angeles Police Department for that purpose. After several years of research, his conclusion was that psychics could contribute nothing useful to police work. “Psychics come out of the woodwork during cases which the media become heavily involved in,” he says. Part of Dr. Reiser's experimentation involved weapons used in homicide cases. These were mixed in with “virgin” items as controls, and it was found that the psychics were unable to differentiate among them.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:05 pm

SamZee wrote:The ability to see energies like that is a wonderful thing. It normally indicates a relatively open third eye. Also known as the Third-Eye Chakra, 6th-Chakra, 6th Ray, Indigo Ray, Indigo energy center -- whatever you want to call it. A relatively active Indigo energy center would enable such a perception, as well as one's psychic ability. What you're seeing could very well be the aura of a disembodied soul. A kindred spirit that visits you at night as they commonly do.

Regarding teachers/spiritual guidance:

When it comes to this sort of stuff, it is imperative to understand that a teacher can only provide information and guidance for that which is requested. You can't just teach someone this stuff. They must actively seek the information with the potential and willingness to understand it. So if I were to teach you guys some spiritual philosophy, I could only do that insofar as is requested. It would be wrong for me to express teaching without the proper request and seeking of your free will -- which must always be preserved. Does this make sense?


I am not sure if i am retarded or if you are being complex. lol
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Postby SigillumDeiAemeth on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:06 pm

tsetse22 wrote:
SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:
.... And also since i was 15 i keep seeing swirly blue
energies at night (lights turned off). It would be so strong that it would completely fill my entire eyesight. Now i am 22 and it has become very less but still there. But i don't know what it was. Can anyone explain what it is? Thanks


I did a paper in College once about the connection between the eyes and the brain. It was long ago & I forget the
exact details, but I do recall it involved rods and cone and the physical aspects of the eye and they way light is encoded into vision through the optic nerves into a specific area of the brain where it is decoded.

It's very hard to explain the things I see when I close my eyes, begin to sleep (similar to the things we tend to see when we press or rub our eyes) Back then CGI was in it's infancy so I bet today someone could do so much on the subject. Besides clouds that alternate from a negative image to a positive image. What is it? I dunno, eye-ball juice? ha ha ha. Also I "see" tiny moving latices in both eyes in the area just below 'straight ahead' which I assume are brain generated to help me pick up motion. I also see small section/grids of what are like old TV screen 'pixels' primary colors that I assume are color receptors generated to my closed eye vision to work out color reception...

There's tons of optical illusions involving inverse colors, continuity of motion, retinal fatigue, & on and on....

We tend to see faces where they aren't and interpret through expectation, missing "frames" of action so to speak - which is why the hand is quicker than the eye.... I personally feel there is something over-assuming about the ability to see aura's & other things outside normal temporal light wavelengths. That's all just an opinion of course.


Maybe i am delisional. =(
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby SamZee on Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:40 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:I am not sure if i am retarded or if you are being complex. lol

Hah, sorry. I wasn't trying sound overly complicated, I was just trying to be articulate and elegant. I'm not sure what it is you didn't understand so if you still have questions, feel free to ask.
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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby tsetse22 on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:18 am

SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:
tsetse22 wrote:
SigillumDeiAemeth wrote:
.... And also since i was 15 i keep seeing swirly blue
energies at night (lights turned off). It would be so strong that it would completely fill my entire eyesight. Now i am 22 and it has become very less but still there. But i don't know what it was. Can anyone explain what it is? Thanks


I did a paper in College once about the connection between the eyes and the brain. It was long ago & I forget the
exact details, but I do recall it involved rods and cone and the physical aspects of the eye and they way light is encoded into vision through the optic nerves into a specific area of the brain where it is decoded.

It's very hard to explain the things I see when I close my eyes, begin to sleep (similar to the things we tend to see when we press or rub our eyes) Back then CGI was in it's infancy so I bet today someone could do so much on the subject. Besides clouds that alternate from a negative image to a positive image. What is it? I dunno, eye-ball juice? ha ha ha. Also I "see" tiny moving latices in both eyes in the area just below 'straight ahead' which I assume are brain generated to help me pick up motion. I also see small section/grids of what are like old TV screen 'pixels' primary colors that I assume are color receptors generated to my closed eye vision to work out color reception...

There's tons of optical illusions involving inverse colors, continuity of motion, retinal fatigue, & on and on....

We tend to see faces where they aren't and interpret through expectation, missing "frames" of action so to speak - which is why the hand is quicker than the eye.... I personally feel there is something over-assuming about the ability to see aura's & other things outside normal temporal light wavelengths. That's all just an opinion of course.


Maybe i am delisional. =(


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Re: Learning to be psychic.

Postby DreamNerd on Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:48 am

Ever since I was little, I always wanted to be a Medium. I told my mom tons of times, but she thinks I'm absolutely insane for even thinking about it. I always was fascinated with the dead, paranormal, and history, but there's something about me that just wants to be a psychic medium. Any tips?
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